Margaret Josephs isn’t impressed with the way Teresa Giudice has changed since the start of her relationship with Luis Ruelas.
Speaking out about her Real Housewives of New Jersey castmate on Tamra Judge, 56, and Teddi Mellencamp‘s podcast on Wednesday, Margaret, 57, reacted to the burn meeting Teresa, 52, staged with her attorney, James J. Leonard, Jr., addressed Teresa’s evolution, and revealed if she thinks her marriage to Luis will last.
“I think she’s complicit,” Margaret admitted on the August 14 episode of Two Ts in a Pod.
Looking back at the start of their former friendship, Margaret said she met Teresa after she was released from prison, and she “really bonded with her.”
“She was very different. She was always with [Melissa Gorga] and [Joe Gorga]. They were extremely good to her. They included her all the time. I was with her. We had a lot of laughs. [But] she’s a horrible grudge-holder,” Margaret explained. “She would still say things to me about Melissa and I was like, ‘Stop.’ And I would try and bring them together. Even when we were in Ireland, I would have private conversations with her, but she was doing things behind the scenes.”
Now that Teresa has been married to Luis for two years, Margaret believes her main goal in life is to protect him.
“She doesn’t care about her career or anything else. I think proof of that is how, when I just watched the alternate reunion, how she could defend his actions,” Margaret noted, signaling Luis wishing harm on her son during the finale. “If my husband did that, which he never would, I would go berserk. I would be like, ‘Are you insane? How dare you?’ He is the demise of her.”
During RHONJ season 14, Teresa called her castmates to her home with her attorney to expose Margaret for speaking to Luis’ ex-girlfriend, Vanessa Reiser. Initially, Margaret was upset that the meeting was allowed by production.
“At first I was like, ‘What, are you nuts? You’re gonna have an attorney go on there?’ But then I thought about it. I was like, ‘I did nothing wrong. This is such nonsense,’” she reasoned.
Also nonsense, according to Margaret, is Siggy Flicker‘s claim that she reached out to her husband’s late ex-wife.
“She had reached out to me. Very nice lady, and I had known her and a lot of people in our area knew her. I never said anything. She had written to me, just to be nice, was very grateful. She said that I saw who they were. That was it. There was no discussion whatsoever,” she insisted. “Siggy, clearly, we all know who she is. She has severe issues.”
As Bravo considers how to proceed with RHONJ, Margaret said that there will “for sure” be at least one person who will not be asked back as she noted that the network hasn’t made any moves quite yet.
“It could be rebooted. It could be some people coming back. Whatever it is, it’s been a great run,” she stated. “I’ve been very blessed. I feel, if I go out, I go out on top. It’s a beautiful part of my life. Painful at a lot of times. I have businesses, I have a great family. I’d rather go out with a high. Whatever the Bravo Gods say, that’s the call.”
When she was then asked if Bravo should bring back Teresa or Melissa, if only one could participate in season 15, Margaret didn’t skip a beat.
“Melissa. What, are you kidding me? She brings so much light and happiness and fun. There is no question in my mind. Good triumphs over evil,” she declared. “As long as Teresa’s with… There’s too much darkness and toxicity.”
Margaret was also questioned about whether she felt Teresa would dump Luis if Bravo told her they wouldn’t bring her back with him in tow.
“No,” she replied.
Regarding Teresa and Luis’ future, Margaret suspected they’ll last “for now.”
“I think she really, really loves him. I think, for now. Do I think this is forever? No. That’s just my opinion,” she shared. “[But] I wish no ill on them.”
As for whether she and Teresa would reconcile if Luis wasn’t in the picture, Margaret suggested her co-star would first need to go to a detox center.
“I think she needs to go to where they wash your brain. I think she has to go to a de-wiring. I don’t know what it is, but I’ve never seen somebody so easily manipulated in my life,” she explained.
The Real Housewives of New Jersey is on hiatus ahead of its 15th season.